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　　在昆明，有一个七岁的小孩被山上掉下来的石头砸死了，捐献出了器官。当时给补助，他的家人坚决不要。后来，云南红十字会做的工作就是，把这个小孩的弟弟免费培养到18岁，以表现社会对牺牲者的贡献的认可与报答，社会主义大家庭的温暖。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　以这种形式发扬社会的这种优秀的精神。器官捐献是生命的礼物，不要赤裸裸的金钱交易。我希望，社会中有个很好的文化，把器官捐献的工作做好。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　此外，器官捐献能体现这个社会的爱心。我们也希望接受器官移植的人能够有更多地反馈给社会。西方说，器官移植的受体和献体是不能够见面的。但其实我觉得，我国的体系建设好以后，可以更多地鼓励社会的互动。前年，广东佛山，有个台湾人捐献器官，救了三个人。他的爸爸妈妈从台湾过来，受体都管捐献者的爸爸妈妈叫爷爷奶奶，多感人。所以，我们要用中华民族的文化来解决中国的问题，不要照搬西方的。</p> <p> </p> <p> <strong>　　谈OPO建设</strong></p> <p> </p> <p> <strong>　　很多医院争抢捐献资源，怎么解决这个问题</strong></p> <p> </p> <p> 　　南都：目前器官捐献意愿登记系统有两个，分别是国家卫计委参与的“施予受”器官捐献志愿者登记网站，和中国红十字会下设的中国人体器官捐献管理中心网站，这样的“双系统”会不会造成重复？两个系统有联网吗？会不会造成竞争？</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　黄洁夫：这是误解，其实我们这么大的国家多几个网站有什么不好呢，有100个网站都不嫌多，最后都汇到一个池子里。现在问题就是还没有联网。但我希望能多一些这样的网站，最后能汇到一起。现在我们刚开始，刚出现了两个小支流，大家怕啥。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　我国器官捐献事业就像一个刚出生的婴儿，你就问他：你乒乓球打得怎么样，足球怎么样，能不能参加奥运会？刚刚出生的新生事物，我们要让他发展一段时间，然后再来完善，不是一开始就指责苛求。现在两个网站一点都不多，我希望再多几个，慢慢地几个网站再总结经验，支流跟江河汇成大海，需要有个过程。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　而且这也没什么好竞争的，又不挣钱。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　网站跟捐献是没有关系的，只是创造一个社会的氛围，真正的捐献意愿发生在IC U里，而且还要有捐献者家人的同意，这是两码事。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　国外是推定同意，我们必须是家人同意。如果一个人登记了捐献意愿，一定会告诉家里的。如果他出了什么事，他家人知道他有这个意愿，再由家人去决定。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　南都：广东存在多个O PO (中国人体器官获取组织)并行的情况。很多医院争抢资源，冲着有限的器官捐献者去。怎么解决这个问题？</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　黄洁夫：O PO建设，每个地方有它自己的模式。今年下半年，适当的时间，我们会到广东去召开全国O PO的会议。在这个事情上，广东做得好。这个事物还在发展过程中，不要一开始就去限定它是一个还是几个。刚开始，大家乱抢。但如果大家都不踊跃去做这个事情，那么器官捐献工作又该怎么做？发展过程之后，什么是最好的，老百姓自有公论。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　只有一个O PO，大家都不抢，不一定就是好的。一定不能是一个O PO，那样没有竞争，没有积极性，这样的事业是没有生命力的。有些医生站在自己的立场上，提出个人的建议，好心的意见。但我认为，应该鼓励大家更积极地做这件事。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　“当务之急，是全面修订人体器官捐献条例”</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　南都：器官移植法您呼吁了很久，国家有没有推进的计划？下一步器官捐献工作的重点是什么？</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　黄洁夫：我这次的提案，当务之急，是2007年颁布的人体器官捐献条例需要全面修订。今年，推广器官移植工作，我想，应该把“条例”、“暂行规定”、“刑法器官买卖罪”等三十多个文件，整合在一起，打造一个升级版的器官移植法文件。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　“下圣治事，中圣治人，上圣制法。”我们现在要全面依法治国，从法律法规层面进行规范。所有机构的建设都有待法律的完善。所以我们希望你们一起呼吁这个条例尽快修订，新的器官移植法能够出台，明确界定红十字会、卫生行政部门和医疗机构的权责。</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　南都：什么时候能出台？</p> <p> </p> <p> 　　黄洁夫：我希望你们都呼吁啊。</p> <p> </p> <p> 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